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fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Microsoft Finally Realizes Nobody Wants Its Windows 11 Preinstalled Bloatware

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Microsoft Finally Realizes Nobody Wants Its Windows 11 Preinstalled Bloatware

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fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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Five more Microsoft apps nobody uses will have the uninstall option enabled soon.
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    Tldr: Remote desktop, Cortana, camera, people app are all getting uninstall buttons.

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        HI! I’m Skype!

        uninstall

        Hi! I’m Skype!

        uninstall

        Hi! I’m skype!

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          “Are you suuuuure you don’t want to use Edge? Are you suuuuure you don’t want it to be the default handler for .pdf and .svg files? Are you sure? Are you sure you’re sure? Just in case, we’ll pin it to your start menu again and put a shortcut to it on your desktop. Just until you’re sure.”

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            And then they made it where you can’t just select a different browser, you have to go manually associate each type with the new browser.

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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNY6ZstdUdY

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        Cortana is being killed and replaced with their ChatGPT Bing thing.

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          Why does Microsoft hate Halo so much

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            It’s a successful consumer product. Can’t have that under the Microsoft umbrella

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            Microsoft will punish Halo for each and every fan that failed to spend $2000 on mtx armor colors

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          Does that mean the AI thing will be unable to be uninstalled?

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            Probably. It will be an “essential” part of the OS, like Edge.

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              Which means it’ll probably be training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft

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                Sounds like a good reason to get rid of windows 😁

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                  I mean, Windows itself has been a good reason to get rid of Windows for a long time.

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                  Yes, all these imagined outrages are definitely a good reason for that.

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                    You can’t honestly believe that Microsoft won’t be harvesting as much data as possible with their AI search.

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                Yep. A lot of what you do is already being reported back to Microsoft though.

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                And most likely they’ll come 'round to your house and harvest your organs while you sleep, too.

                Where are these “probable” scenarios coming from? This seems kind of overboard.

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                  I mean Windows 11 right now harvests a lot of data about your PC, so I don’t think it’s a stretch exactly.

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                    “training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft” is rather a big jump from “report lots of telemetry data.”

                    I’m not saying people shouldn’t be paying attention, but this thread is jumping straight from “there’s a potential risk here” to “OMG Windows is spyware, delete everything!” There’s already a lot of hysteria surrounding AI, let’s not go nuts without some kind of actual reason.

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              Just like Cortana, however, there will be a way to disable it via Group Policy somehow. That’s because government institutions that use Windows will not be happy with there being a feature in the OS that is capable of listening to a microphone and transmitting what it hears to a third party.

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              It will be an “essential” part of the OS, like Edge Internet Explorer 4.

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              easy enough to just block telemetry

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            you can its just a slightly more involved process. They already released a tutorial

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              Thanks!

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        Which is also when they regularly try and get you to mistakenly click a button to make Edge your default browser. Scummy dark patterns.

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        I never got unwanted stuff back after update.

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          Its seemed… better lately. But I used to get skype back every single update when 11 first came out.

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            They also fuck with privacy settings too on uodate…

            Switched to Linux after that shit.

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          Do you have a pro or enterprise license?

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      What about FUCKING TEAMS

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        PS> get-appxpackage *teams* | remove-appxpackage
        
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          I love PowerShell

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            I understand that your comment makes sense in context, but wash your mouth out with soap for speaking such vile heresy

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              PowerShell is one of the best things MS has done. Turning a rich, OO environment into a CLI was smart.

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                Kind of horrifying to use when you’re used to a unixy shell though!

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                  Perhaps, but the same goes the other way. I’ll stand by PowerShell even though windows is hit and miss at best.

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          If lemmy had gold I’d give you some

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        You could always uninstall Teams and still can, regularly via the Settings app.

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      Why remote desktop? I can understand the rest. But who uninstalls default apps and doesn’t use remote desktop?

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        Very few people use remote desktop.

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          Very few people bother removing all the default apps in the first place.

          The type of high caliber nerd to care about a pre installed app that sits dormant and uses a few MB of storage probably already uses remote desktop often enough they’d want to keep it.

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          I would have used it but it’s only available on Pro/Enterprise versions. But that led me to finding Parsec so all ended well.

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        Remote Desktop App vs Remote Desktop Connection.

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        I agree with that “and”

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        Remote Desktop is dead. Azure killed it. TeamViewer is the replacement (and yes you have to pay for it) or you pick another third party vendor for your RDP needs.

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          People still use team viewer?

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            Scammers notably of course, but it’s Microsoft’s sanctioned solution to them removing RDP capability with Azure. I’m super interested in finding out what cut they get or how much TeamViewer payed for that.

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            I do, though it’s rare lately. What do you use instead?

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              A VPN and RDP.

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          The only exposure I have to windows now is in an Amazon virtual environment so I want aware of this. It seems strange seeing as RDP is a simple and robust solution… Unlike TeamViewer.

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      I think the list of “apps” (AKA junk) people would actually like to deinstall is quite a bit longer.

      How about uninstalling edge? It is only needed to download Firefox, anyway.

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      Great. Now give them a couple more years to learn they shouldn’t be installed by default in the first place.

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      It sure took them a while, but they seem to finally allow folks to personalize their experience. I’m not going to complain about it, though – this is definitely a good change.

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        Not far enough. It’d be lovely if I could scale Windows down to almost 7 gigs or so (what windows 10 is, probably should be lower) But the thing is Windows in general is just a bloated piece of crap that continues to grow.

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      What the hell is wrong with remote desktop and the camera app?

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        Nothing. But having the option to uninstall them like any other app is nice for whenever it might be relevant.

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      Maybe someday they’ll discover checkboxes and use them to not have to install these apps in the first place.

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        “What’s a checkbox? Oh, you mean that thing we use to trick users into ‘consenting’ to telemetry?”

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          I think I’ve got it! So on install, we make a checkbox that says:

          • do not install web search in the start menu, but also I consent to Microsoft collecting creepy levels of data about me
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      Wait, so of the five apps they will “let” you uninstall now, one makes little sense to have in the consumer edition (remote desktop - which is effectively enabled in Pro only) and one is getting deprecated (Cortana - bye bye!).

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        The remote desktop they are talking about is the client app used to connect to remote systems.

        The remote desktop feature that’s limited to Pro is the ability for the system to receive remote connections.

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      Great!! I thought they’d never do it!

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