Hello fellow lemmings
I am a long-time i3 user and have decided to switch to Sway. I have encountered a weird error which has left me utterly bamboozled.
I am using Ubuntu 24.04 which has gone from 20.04 -> 22.04 -> 24.04. It has Ubuntu-Gnome, i3 and Sway currently installed.
The issue
The error that I’m facing is when I’m using Sway, I simply don’t have sudo access.
This is what the error looks like
$ sudo visudo
[sudo] password for xavier666:
Sorry, user xavier666 is not allowed to execute '/usr/sbin/visudo' as root on <HOSTNAME>.
When I switch back to i3, my permissions are fine for the same user. I have not done any crazy modifications to the sudoer’s file as far as I can remember.
PS: I have added a command to no-sudo xavier666 ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/brightnessctl
The “fix”
I temporarily solved it by adding xavier666 ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
to the sudoer’s file.
IMO, I think this should not be required. I don’t remember ever adding the default user to the file for all the installations that I have done. (But this is the first time I’ve installed Sway)
Logs/Outputs
Running sudo -l
without the fix (on Sway)
Matching Defaults entries for xavier666 on <HOSTNAME>:
env_reset, mail_badpass,
secure_path=/usr/local/sbin\:/usr/local/bin\:/usr/sbin\:/usr/bin\:/sbin\:/bin\:/snap/bin,
use_pty
User xavier666 may run the following commands on <HOSTNAME>:
(root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/brightnessctl
When I run the same command on i3, i get this (ALL : ALL) ALL
extra line in the output.
And when I run sudo -l
with my fix on Sway, (ALL : ALL) ALL
is present and the permission issue is fixed.
What is causing Sway to remove the root permission for the user?
Note: I’m just asking for the standard sudo behaviour. I’m not trying to run GUI applications as root.
Hmm let’s try to isolate the bug to know if it’s sway or gdm messing up:
Try to disable gdm:
sudo systemctl disable gdm.service
Logout/restart. You should be at the TTY, enter username and password to login. Then simply type
sway
Now, test your sudo commands within this sway session. Do you still get the same bug?
From my experience a user account usually needs to be in the “wheel” group to elevate privileges through sudo. So try that.
This likely has nothing to do with sway but with the way the sway session is started, as opposed to the i3 session.
We need more info on this.Isn’t i3 Xorg only, and sway wayland only? That would mean the whole graphical server has also changed.
but with the way the sway session is started, as opposed to the i3 session. We need more info on this.
I’m using gdm to start sway. I’m using the laptop’s built-in fingerprint scanner to unlock (Not sure if it matters). I saved the fingerprint in the Gnome session long back.
gdm probably looks inside
/usr/share/wayland-sessions
and findssway.desktop
and uses it to launch Sway.I’ve tried to keep things as vanilla as possible.
Isn’t i3 Xorg only, and sway wayland only?
Correct.
Maybe wayland is launched using restrictive set of permissions.
Does the same issue also happen if you launch sway from the tty and not from gdm ?
I’ve never used gdm but it probably allow you to open a tty with Ctrl+Alt+F3, then log in and type
sway
.One big difference is that sway doesn’t run as a login process (and neither does gdm), meaning none of your .profile files are getting sourced. Check how your environment variables differ between i3 and sway and see if that might be the issue.
Check how your environment variables differ between i3 and sway and see if that might be the issue
Just running
set
for each session and thendiff
should be enough, right?That would work.
I’m not sure what could be in (or missing from) your environment that would break sudo, but it’s a place to check at least.
gdm probably looks inside /usr/share/wayland-sessions and finds sway.desktop and uses it to launch Sway.
And how did you use to start i3?
Just the way I launch sway; via gdm.
This goes a little beyond me because I have no idea how gdm would differentiate Xorg or wayland sessions.
Look into the session files themselves (.desktop) - they have an Exec= line. Then see if that’s maybe just a shell wrapper around something else, e.g.:
file /usr/bin/sway
and see what it does.That’s all I have.
For i3, the desktop file is like this (present in
/usr/share/xsessions
)[Desktop Entry] Name=i3 Comment=improved dynamic tiling window manager Exec=i3 TryExec=i3 Type=Application X-LightDM-DesktopName=i3 DesktopNames=i3 Keywords=tiling;wm;windowmanager;window;manager;
And sway (present in
/usr/share/wayland-sessions
)[Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Name=Sway Comment=An i3-compatible Wayland compositor Exec=/usr/bin/sway Type=Application DesktopNames=sway
Gdm probably sums up all the DE from both the wayland and x11 sessions.
There are some files & directories in
/etc/gdm3
but I’m too lazy to go through all of themInit PostSession Prime config-error-dialog.sh greeter.dconf-defaults PostLogin PreSession PrimeOff custom.conf Xsession
Thanks for your help.
but I’m too lazy to go through all of them
OK. But you did want to solve this just because you’re interested?
You’re going to have to look at how that process works on Ubuntu and how it differes from Xorg session start.
gdm probably looks inside /usr/share/wayland-sessions and finds sway.desktop and uses it to launch Sway.
FWIW, these are all text files. Look at them.
Sorry, I have to go now. More tonight, if you want.
these are all text files
Yeah, it just calls the executable mentioned in the
.desktop
file (/usr/bin/sway). It should not be a GDM, issue, right?I also checked that I don’t have
seatd
installed, which is a “minimal user, seat and session management daemon” mentioned in arch wiki (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Sway). Could it be related?Sorry, I have to go now. More tonight, if you want.
No hurry, the fix I am using is not causing issue. I just want to know why this is happening. This is a fun research problem.
PS: I checked Google and I didn’t find anyone who has faced the same issue.
Can you compare
groups
output under both sessions?Specifically, if you don’t show membership of sudo in your Sway session, try this
loginctl enable-linger lazarus
Inisde i3 WITHOUT FIX
$ groups xavier666 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin lxd sambashare $ groups xavier666 xavier666 : xavier666 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin lxd sambashare
Inside sway WITH/WITHOUT FIX
$ groups xavier666 root $ groups xavier666 xavier666 : xavier666 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin lxd sambashare
PS: I corrected the username, it should be
xavier666
. I corrected the main post.$ groups
xavier666 root
Sorry what? As what user are you executing all these ‘groups’ commands? Unless Ubuntu does things significantly differently from Arch and Debian, there’s something very fishy going on here. The “normal” user should not be in the root group, and root should not be in the normal user’s group.
Have you done other things beside the “fix” you mentioned?
That “fix” from your op, btw, looks totally valid to me.
As what user are you executing all these ‘groups’ commands?
I’m using my default user (
xavier666
)The “normal” user should not be in the root group, and root should not be in the normal user’s group.
I just made the user a root user/system administrator during the Ubuntu installation process, which is very standard.
Have you done other things beside the “fix” you mentioned?
AFAIK, I haven’t done any changes. This is a single user system. I checked the contents of
/etc/sudoers
and these are the only other lines of significance. I didn’t change them (Why are theresigns?)
# User privilege specification root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL xavier666 ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
That “fix” from your op, btw, looks totally valid to me.
It’s working fine also. However, I believe in “don’t touch what ain’t broke” and “why isn’t it documented?”
However, in my installations I have never touched the sudoer file to make the ONLY user part of
sudo
group post install. Either I’m dumb or I’m launching sway/wayland with improper permissions.I also can’t find anything on the arch wiki which deals with this.
Why isn’t the same problem happening on i3?
(Why are there
signs)
Good question, here’s the explanation
man sudoers
offers:The definitions of what constitutes a valid alias member follow. User_List ::= User | User ',' User_List User ::= '!'* user name | '!'* #user-ID | '!'* %group | '!'* %#group-ID | '!'* +netgroup | '!'* %:nonunix_group | '!'* %:#nonunix_gid | '!'* User_Alias A User_List is made up of one or more user names, user-IDs (prefixed with ‘#’), system group names and IDs (prefixed with ‘%’ and ‘%#’ respectively), netgroups (prefixed with ‘+’), non-Unix group names and IDs (prefixed with ‘%:’ and ‘%:#’ respectively), and User_Aliases. Each list item may be prefixed with zero or more ‘!’ operators. An odd number of ‘!’ operators negate the value of the item; an even number just cancel each other out. User netgroups are matched using the user and domain members only; the host member is not used when matching.
TL;DR
lets the system know the following word is a group name, instead of a username
!lemmysilver
user-IDs (prefixed with ‘#’)
And I thought it just meant a comment.
Thanks for this, I had no idea.
In that case Ubuntu DOES things differently. And weirdly imho, there’s no reason for the normal user to be in the root group since they still need privilege escalation to edit system files.
If you use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers you don’t have to worry about the syntax.
FWIW, this is what my perfectly healthy system looks like:
$ sudo grep -vE '^[[:space:]]*#|^[[:space:]]*$' /etc/sudoers Defaults env_reset Defaults mail_badpass Defaults secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin" Defaults use_pty root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL @includedir /etc/sudoers.d $ groups a_norny_mousse adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev bluetooth lpadmin scanner
You will notice that my user is in the sudo group; this is enough to give them admin rights as per sudoers.
The output of the above command is nearly the same for me.
Even though I have manually added myself to
/etc/sudoers
file, mygroups
output is very weird. It’s justxavier666 root
Kind of stumped here.
Even though I have manually added myself to /etc/sudoers file, my groups output is very weird.
One has nothing to do with the other.
Try enable-linger. As I understand it, the issue is related to the way Sway handles Wayland sockets, and enable-linger kicks things off before Sway is involved.
I’m unsure how to use the command. I added it to the main Sway config file, which means it’s executed whenever Sway starts (Post login).
However, it didn’t make any difference. I also ran it manually
$ loginctl enable-linger xavier666 $ sudo visudo [sudo] password for xavier666: Sorry, user xavier666 is not allowed to execute '/usr/sbin/visudo' as root on <HOSTNAME>.
You run it and then reboot. If that doesn’t fix it, then it didn’t fix it :\
Yeah, I ran it and rebooted it. But no change :(
I’ll do it once more just in case.