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ZeroCool@slrpnk.net to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

US lawmakers vote 50-0 to force sale of TikTok despite angry calls from users

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US lawmakers vote 50-0 to force sale of TikTok despite angry calls from users

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ZeroCool@slrpnk.net to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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Lawmaker: TikTok must "sever relationship with the Chinese Communist Party."
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    Advertising.

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      Source? Examples?

      I tried googling, can’t find anything that supports these claims

      Edit: third party advertisers abusing tiktoks advertising algorithms is not on topic to the original comment that tiktok itself specifically targets children, and tiktok has addressed these issues.

      You can downvote all you want, but I’ve still not been provided any proof that tiktok specifically targets or intends their platform to be for children.

      I’m not dismissing the original claim. I’m genuinely curious, but I need logical discourse, not users with mental illness going off on complete tangents.

      If you have any cognitive thought or opinionated source that tiktok is a bad faith actor towards the safety or health of children, I’d love to read it. My company builds software, so knowing the failings of tiktok to protect children is in my interest.

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        https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/22/tiktok-eu-consumer-protection-commtiments/

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          Again, this is not relevant to the original comment.

          This is about how advertising was abused to target children.

          It honestly sounds like you unjustifiably hate the platform and are throwing every nonsensical argument.

          You’ve provided zero justification that tiktok as a company purposely targets children or designs their application specifically for children.

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            I tried googling, can’t find anything that supports these claims

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        https://www.tiktok.com/business/en-US

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          Unrelated - this is just a business tiktok page

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            Directely relevant to advertising on tiktok.

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        Didn’t look very hard

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        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/facebook-instagram-tiktok-snapchat-children-advertising-2022-harvard-study/

        Should I keep finding relevant links for you or do you feel sufficiently foolish enough?

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          The comment was

          Yes but UNLIKE Facebook and other platforms, Tik Tok is aimed at and consumed by minors specifically.

          That study shows the opposite. YouTube benefited from minors over 2.5 times more than TikTok. And it shows every other platform is benefiting similar amounts. In fact, Snapchat has half the number of monthly users as tiktok but has almost identical ad revenue from minors. All the major social media platforms suck and are trying to take advantage of us, especially kids

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            I’m not arguing it’s only tiktok. They all fucking suck. The question was how does TikTok benefit off children and the answer is advertising. That’s a fact.

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              But the original comment you replied to (edit: not that you replied to, the comment you replied to was replying to a user saying that) WAS saying it’s only, or at least primarily, Tiktok.

              I only commented because, especially among the reddit and fediverse demographic, there’s a fervent dislike of TikTok specifically. I think some people have lost sight of the larger issue, that TikTok is a symptom and not the disease. But it’s an easy target because of its early reputation as a dance app for younger users, its alleged ties to the CCP, and its popularity.

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          Unrelated

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            I tried googling, can’t find anything that supports these claims

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        https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2022/06/22/tiktok-agrees-to-improve-protections-for-children/?sh=11be59fe459b

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          This is about advertising to children within the platform and how tiktok intends to protect unethical advertising to children

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            Again - take the L.

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            I’m sorry you are getting downvoted, because technically you are right. TikTok will never claim to aim at children or advertise as such because they know they can’t provide a safe environment and will open themselves up to lawsuits.

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              If you’re the type of person who needs a verbal admission of guilt before you can see wrong doing, I guess.

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              Tiktok’s stance is rather meaningless because they’d never admit wrongdoing. I’m more curious how does tiktok target children with their platform? How do they lure them to it and why?

              Then the conversation becomes: What standards should social media platforms be accountable to?

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        https://fivechannels.com/not-just-for-kids-the-ultimate-guide-to-advertising-on-tiktok/

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          Unrelated to original comment

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            I tried googling, can’t find anything that supports these claims

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        https://appradar.com/blog/how-to-use-tiktok-ads-for-mobile-games

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          Unrelated

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            Directely relevant to advertising on tiktok.

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        https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/tiktok-risks-pushing-children-towards-harmful-content/

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          Unrelated, and you provided links that tiktok has worked to prevent this behavior from advertised

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        https://www.tiktok.com/business/en-US/blog/privacy-updates-improved-data-control-transparency-tools

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          Again, this supports tiktok protecting children

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            No – it’s ticktok eventually capitulating to pressure to do anything at all. Just admit you’re wrong. It’s ok

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        No seriously – did you even try or did you just want to bloviate online to randos for… no reason at all?

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        https://devforum.roblox.com/t/how-to-successfully-grow-your-game-ft-senseideveloper-vikinglaw-promoting-and-advertising-your-game/2535279

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          Unrelated

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            Directely relevant to advertising on tiktok.

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              The fact that you can advertise to children on tiktok doesn’t mean that the platform specifically exists to cater to young children.

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                I think it does.

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        You just ignore anything you dont like. You’re not arguing in good faith.

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        https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-slammed-in-europe-over-hidden-advertising-to-kid-1846277642

        Are you a GOP candidate? You seriously couldn’t find any of these links?? I didn’t even use Google.

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          Unrelated to original comment

          Please find two brain cells to rub together to understand the context of the original comment. You’ve gone on a complete nonsensical tangent akin to mental illness

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            You just ignore anything you don’t like. Go back to Beijing and tell Poobear you failed.

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            I have to say they provided a lot of links and were unable to show anything relevant so i was tempted just to assume they’re crazy but I try not to base anything on crazy people even negatives so I looked it up

            Looking at TikTok creator ages, figures are skewed towards a younger demographic. Young adults (18-24 years) make up over half of the creators (52.83%). While under 18s make up a comparatively low 27.47%

            I don’t know how accurate these are but the article said they’re sourced from tiktok

            A lot of people want a big bad to blame for everything and tiktok is it for a lot of people, but yeah I don’t really think their claim is correct

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              Agreed. We’re both being downvote because we’re not part of the hive mind.

              Most of the links provided are about how children were easy to advertise to and TikTok was not properly protecting them. That’s a completely different discussion than “tiktok is targeting children”.

              I want to be a supporter of keeping children safe, but I don’t think banning tiktok will help anything other than create 5 new platforms that will make letting kids safe even harder

              Edit: that last argument is a straw man, but you get the point

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